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Betsy's avatar

I'm rechecking my population math, and finding myself confused (no surprise--numbers and I have never gotten along very well). With a grand total of 5.5b in the world, and 3b living in cities, the folks not living in cities would be 2.5b, not 1.83b. It's ALWAYS important to check your math! (note to self) If anyone finds any other discrepancies, please let me know. Thanks.

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LoWa's avatar

The most populous places of the world are probably the easiest to fudge numbers for…no? I’m thinking about my home country India. Whenever I hear a new figure (1.4 billion was the last one I heard), I snigger and go “who knows?!?!” It’s impossible to accurately count in places like that because a huge number of people wouldn’t fill out censuses and many in rural areas and city slums may not be too literate ti fill out a census. Anyone who’s been to India knows what I mean - you look around and go, geeeeez there are a ton of people here…

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Betsy's avatar

India was the other example in the Rumble video. The same method, adding up the populations of the 300 largest cities, and the total was way less than it would have to be for the whole country to be 1.4 billion. And factoring in the likelihood that most or all of those top 300 are probably inflated figures, the lie is even more brazen.

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LoWa's avatar

Oh right. I actually have never managed to figure out where big city boundaries in India actually end because when you drive out of town, there’s people and people and people and people like the whole way lol, lots of settlements, some more ramshackle and congested than others

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Rob (c137)'s avatar

Freud was a deranged individual, addicted to cocaine and he mainly studied the bourgeoisie which are deranged too.

Their "proof" of humanity being violent or evil is total bullshit.

https://robc137.substack.com/p/the-milgram-experiment-and-how-we

Everything about how they understand the body and societal systems is really deluded.

https://robc137.substack.com/p/allergic-to-bullshit

This is why it's deluded. They're mentally damaged.

https://robc137.substack.com/p/left-brain-vs-whole-brain-in-battlestar

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Betsy's avatar

It is so outrageous that he remains very influential! The dominant narratives always seem able to stay on top no matter what we find out about their falsity! I believe this hegemony is starting to unravel, but the fact that so many still believe the BS makes me want to scream.

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Guy Duperreault's avatar

yes.

many years ago i understood, partially, the popularity of freud: his psychology promoted being a victim of life and that authorities of psychiatry would bring you your life from their wise and generous hands. jung, on the other hand, was ignored or castigated because his psychology, at its core, promoted personal responsibility. (when a friend tried to dismiss jung for not having helped many, i counted that the AA practices may have helped more people than any other 'system' and it is basically stripped down jungian psychology, which includes its 'christian' roots, as jung was adamant that life without a spiritual core was very very unhealthy and prone to 'chronic grumblers with bad digestions.)

my more recent understanding is a bit more nuanced, although that is fundamentally it. freud was an agent of disempowering people and so was usefully propagandised in popular culture and the fictions and the universities. very very well co-ordinated.

just out of curiosity, freud was even overlayed on hamlet. have you watched the (absolutely horrible drek version of) hamlet with laurence olivier? [smh] omg, that is now, on hindsight, a real example of mockingbird moving in to push an agenda through the media.

next small freudian synchronicity: about twenty minutes ago i listened to a brit deconstruction the agenda being pushed with the success of the series 'adolescence'. more mocking bird, of course. in her written introduction to her audio she intriguingly wrote: 'So, how is the mass mind being manipulated this time, what’s the connection to a certain “national treasure’s” 1970’s childhood, and how does Freud fit into it..?' [smh] that is now getting close to 10 freud references in less than a week, and most of them in the last 3 days. hmmmm.

we are living the bhagavad-gita wedded to the great apocalypse! all the best with what is changing. everything changes! with peace, respect, love and equanimous enthusiasm.

🙏❤️🧘‍♂️🙌☯️🙌🧘‍♂️❤️🙏

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Betsy's avatar

Yes, you are definitely in a Freud (or Freudian?) synchronicity!

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Guy Duperreault's avatar

yes. too funny because my latest wip includes reference to freud as one of the great 20th centrury propagators of gaslighting as science™.

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Rob (c137)'s avatar

Looking forward to it. There's tons of so called geniuses that were actually moronic.

I'm so frakking tired that people push back on these frauds.

Here's another one, existentialism which was used to keep slaves working till death.

Frakking Frankl.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/authoritarian-therapy/201703/is-it-ok-criticize-saint-humanizing-viktor-frankl

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Guy Duperreault's avatar

lol!

yes. isn't he the guy who lied in his writing and rationalised it as the good lie?

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Crixcyon's avatar

Wonderful food for thought. Our bodies are not stupid, it's our thinking that is haywire and much of that is due to indoctrination. A body never does something unhealthy. Otherwise we never would have survived all this time. A body is all about survival.

We have been far too trustful of experts and authorities. They all lie because most people would never question them or don't know what questions to ask. Yes, all of them lie because they are marketing something to the public. A product, service or even a belief, agenda or dogma.

I never thought about the population equation and how it is conceived. It makes sense that it is faulty. Another lie. What can we believe anymore? Who can we trust?

I have been thinking about the medical system. For example, why would dentists be so hot-to-trot about fluoridation and the pretend result of less cavities. They do after all depend on people having regular and common teeth problems to earn an income. Why would they want healthier teeth and fewer customers? Makes no sense therefore we must conclude that things like fluoridation and mercury fillings are detrimental to good healthy teeth.

The same with drugs and vaccines. If any of them actually promoted better health, the health care system would be losing customers and we can plainly see it entirely revolves around a steady flow of sick, repeat customers. Once captured by it, it is difficult to escape.

I am seeing this in my wife's situation. The doctors have blinders, the drugs are debilitating, they often have severe repercussions if you try to get off of them, taking them often causes other complications, and they offer nothing better than what your body can provide. It's a horrible way to live. Depending on the health care system.

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Betsy's avatar

Thanks, Crixyon! I always appreciate your support. So sorry about your wife. It must be agonizing to watch that.

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Virginia Stoner's avatar

If the US population numbers are higher than they should be, then it follows that US deaths rates are higher, possibly much higher, than currently shown in the official records, since death rates are calculated by dividing the number of deaths by the size of the population. The current death rates are at this link: https://www.virginiastoner.com/writing/2025/4/13/death-rates-by-age-group-in-the-covid-years-and-beyond

The US population data could be verified to some extent by seeing if the number and capacity of all available schools is consistent with the population of school-aged children. The latter data you can find thru the link, the school data I don't know where to find, but assume it is out there somewhere even if it has to be compiled.

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Betsy's avatar

Interesting point! May be the inflation of the population numbers is designed to hide the actual death rate--the depopulation that is proceeding.

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Virginia Stoner's avatar

Possibly, although the death numbers from 2020-2022 are scary enough as-is, without speculating they are actually twice as bad.

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Nina's avatar

Great article Betsy! I've been noticing how I've been programmed to feel shame. Shameful and guilty about even existing!

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Betsy's avatar

Yes, Nina – that is where they want us. It is so freeing to shake that feeling – not easy, in my experience, but very empowering to realize that the world's problems are not our fault, and we don't need to feel shame and guilt. When we make a mistake, we correct it, apologize if needed, and go forward with better knowledge. The shame of not being worthy of existence is an extremely heinous program that has been imposed on us to keep us from experiencing our power.

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Patricia lucas's avatar

Ironically, I just visited Freud's house in Vienna, Austria. I share a more favorable opinion of Freud, seeing him as a man who loved people and his family and yes struggled with pain and painkillers. He was jewish and felt the pressures of hatred directly and left Austria for his family's safety. I also agree he was deeply influential. I read letters he wrote to Einstein who wrote him to help him understand the craziness of war, and I am paraphrasing now, but Freud wrote back optimistically to him that he believed the the better parts of being human will triumph over our "weaker" nature.

I LOVED reading Betsy's deep dive into population explosion myths and really love that she looked at the stats herself! Brilliant as always and so grateful to be able to share the gross exaggeration we have led to believe is our world of useless mouth breathers with the exception of an elite few who's superiority is so clear to them!

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Betsy's avatar

Thanks, Patricia! It's important to remember that most humans are not all-good or all-bad--I need to remind myself of this. Even though I don't appreciate a lot of what Freud did and said, I'm glad you pointed out that he was also a family man and a kind friend.

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Muad'Dib's avatar

The fact that he was Jewish is reason enough to assume most of his work was fraudulent

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Guy Duperreault's avatar

Hola, pl:

this is a great reminder to temper our understanding of the human as complex and full in all ways. i really appreciated your comment.

and to that balancing, if you haven't done so, i recommend that you read The Assault on Truth: Freud's Suppression of the Seduction Theory by Jeffrey Masson. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1271553.The_Assault_on_Truth

it is a key piece in the scientific™ development of science as the narrative of gaslighting as the very active social promotion of human as victim in order to manage the democracy as described by edward bernays (freud's nephew).

we are living the bhagavad-gita wedded to the great apocalypse! all the best with what is changing. everything changes! with peace, respect, love and equanimous enthusiasm.

🙏❤️🧘‍♂️🙌☯️🙌🧘‍♂️❤️🙏

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Patricia lucas's avatar

Thank you, Guy. I will read the recommendation you suggested. The religion of science has can be so challenging, and I have always followed an inner knowledge base when considering what science presents! Much love to you as well!

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Guy Duperreault's avatar

hola, patricia.

yes, as was put by gautama long ago, trust your self. and as jc put it, the truth lies within.

we are living the bhagavad-gita wedded to the great apocalypse! all the best with what is changing. everything changes! with peace, respect, love and equanimous enthusiasm.

🙏❤️🧘‍♂️🙌☯️🙌🧘‍♂️❤️🙏

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TriTorch's avatar

Just an FYI Betsy:

There is overwhelming evidence to suggest that the global population numbers are nothing but lies, deception, and fabrications. It is highly unlikely that there are 8 billion people on this planet: https://old.bitchute.com/video/Q0KHQdiHkXcC [6:17mins]

According to the UN India has 1.4 billion people. The top 300 cities have a combined population of 200 million, that leaves 1.2 billion scattered around the rest of the countryside?

More likely: The eight billion figure is merely yet another cage, making us think that population is a problem in order to get us to funnel the remainder of our freedoms, wealth, property, & happiness to the top .01%. We live in a Matrix like reality, all of it designed to imprison our minds.

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Betsy's avatar

Did you read my article? I break down the 8 billion claim using the same methodology of adding up populations of the 300 largest cities (in the world). I make most of the points you "fyi" me with here.

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TriTorch's avatar

Nice! Sorry, i missed that, apologies, and thank you for shining a spotlight on the lies.

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

Well-written article, complete with many footnotes.

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Betsy's avatar

Thanks, Dave!

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Angela Morris's avatar

Great synopsis!

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Betsy's avatar

Thanks so much, Angela!

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Deb Schanilec's avatar

Another great post, Betsy. Thank you for the reminder to not trust ANYTHING we are told, and it is not up to us to take on the responsibility for the destructive choices that a handful of corporate types across silos of industry make without our knowledge or consent. And thanks for doing the math regarding estimated population, even if it needs to be amended (like mine would be 😄)

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Betsy's avatar

Math is so tricky! For me. I looked at where I had written, "3 plus 1.83 equals 5.5" and thought, no, it doesn't! I'm a bit surprised no one pointed it out! I am actually writing a book right now, of which this article is a part of chapter 10. I’m looking for critical readers to help me get it in shape. If you’re interested, I’ll send you one or more chapters to look at. No pressure! Just if you want something to read.

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Deb Schanilec's avatar

Sure!

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Betsy's avatar

Thank you! I will send them tomorrow. <3

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Christina Cer's avatar

Thank you for pointing out the 8 billion lie. I calculated the world’s population the same way you did last year and reached a similar result. The entire depopulation agenda is based on that huge lie.

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Betsy's avatar

Exactly! I believe the overpopulation narrative is also intended to shift the blame for environmental destruction from the wealthy people who own the giant corporations that are doing it onto the shoulders of the humans of the world, who are just trying to live their lives within an inhumane system.

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PierreG's avatar

Brilliant piece !

Much Love . . . ♥️ ✌️ ♥️

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Betsy's avatar

Thanks, Pierre!

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follow the silenced's avatar

Right on, dear Betsy.

It changes everything for children.

We could end the unspeakable tradition of chronic illness.

Huge amounts of money would be freed up for real solutions to problems.

The earth needs our help, we are suffocating in garbage. Waste that is largely generated by the pharmaceutical industry. Waste and contamination in the water, in the soil. Masks, syringes, plastic waste.

How many beautiful and meaningful things we could achieve.

This requires healthy people, from childhood onwards.

How do you achieve that?

Clean the tank, not "treat" the fish.

Life needs circumstances worth living in. Clean soil, clean water, clean air.

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Betsy's avatar

Yes, we humans could achieve unbelievably wonderful, beautiful things if we were allowed to be who we are. As long as we continue accepting the system that is imposed on us, we won’t be able to see ourselves as capable of such wonder and beauty. I think we are in time when the scales are falling from people’s eyes. I certainly hope so! That is one of the reasons why I write what I write here, hoping that at least a few readers will stop believing the lies and see that they are so much more than they have been taught.

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Rider's avatar

Thank you for your interesting well written article.

Here is a small point. Most historians and commentators attribute to Charels Darwin's "Origin of the Species" (November 24, 1859) the basic ideas woven into Herbert Spencer's "Social Statics" (1851). But reading Social Statics makes clear, as has also been reported by various sources, that the idea of laissez faire capitalism improving society through natural rewards for competence and natural failure-punishment for reckless behavior...reading Spencer makes it clear he had thoroughly developed his ideas later named "Social Darwinism" before Darwin wrote and published his famous book nine years later. Spencer had studied biology extensively as well as economic philosophy and history. In fact, Herbert Spencer regarded his work on economic, social and cultural theory as a coherent and thoughly complete system. He theorized the that best would flourish and the worst types would drop out of the human race due to their failings and incompetence., thereby improving society.

If anyone doubts my representation of Spencer, please read that book of his.

Reading Spencer, who was famous and influential, makes it obvious that he informed Charles Darwin, not the reverse, as nearly everyone today is taught and believe. That's a typical rewriting of facts and history to suit cultural bias, wherein Darwin is an all time great. I first learned of this historical fact reading early chapters of a book entitled Huiman Action by von Mises, an Austrian School economist.

Anyway, the popularity and widespread acceptance today as truthful of the many times refuted beliefs in "germs" and devotion to the incoherent dea of "viruses" reflects the political-social bias of the progressive movement that has dominated thinking in the West for the last 150 years. Many are convinced that without extensive coercive regulation by bureaucrats, life would devolve into cut throat behavior and cruel exploitation by capitalist monopolists. Naturally, folks who hold such beliefs also favor the idea of ubiquitous pathogenic microbes whose hazards require state regimentation and ordering.

No proof or evidence is needed to persuade people that Darwin informed Spencer, even though that's not true. And no evidence or proof is necessary to sell many people on the idea of contagion and microbial "infections".

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Betsy's avatar

Thanks for the information about Spencer. That is important to know. with regard to regulation, the truth about that, at least, in the United States, is that the whole regulatory system was created to benefit the railroad corporations, and from there, all the other corporations. It was never meant to protect the public or workers. It was meant to look like it was doing that, while actually doing the opposite. I believe it to be another of the lies and deceptions that have been handed to us as truth. This information comes from Railroads and Regulation 1877–1916, by Gabriel Kolko, published in 1965.

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Rider's avatar

Years ago I read a book by Gabriel Kolko, I forget the title. It cocnerned regulatory agency capture by capitalists. In any authoritarian political system, entities that make and hold a lot of wealth come to dominate other entities including those supposedly guard them. I don't think guardians are good or needed--there is competition and the right of people to say "No". You make an excellent point about the effects of railroad regulatory agencies installing and protecting railroad cartels and uncompetitive pricing not possible in a free market. (Although maybe that's not your interpretation).

I have to confess I made a big mistake regarding Herbert Spencer's writing. I had forgotten that the book I read by him years ago was entitled "Men Against the State", written (I'm sure) well after Darwin's book. I have never read Social Statics, so I should find a opy and read it to make sure I am correct re Spencer versus Darwin and who informed whom. I would bet good money Spencer informed Darwin, since Spencer's ideas were, according to what I've read, already intact and thoroughgoing before Darwin wrote his book. Thanks.

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Robert Sniadach's avatar

Excellent article; I agree with all points you raised. Also, I have been working in natural health care for over 4 decades, and have seen and experienced countless evidence of the falsity of germ theory.

That said, does anyone here live in a 3rd world country? I do. The ongoing rape and murder of Nature, in countless ways, is horrific. By humans.

Or, if you live in the developed world, have you ever gone out of the way to see, for yourself, the destruction of Nature wrought by corporations (humans), governments (humans), modern agriculture (by humans, for humans and animals), garbage disposal (humans), mining (humans), deforestation (humans), on and on and on...? Most of it is hidden from view; you have to seek it out for yourself.

Every single human being has certain basic needs to survive - food, air, water, shelter, etc.. Further, most of the people in the 'modern' world expect an increasing availability of goods and services, which all require much, much more raw material from Nature. En toto, this is often referred to as the human 'ecological footprint'.

Nature has a finite capacity to regenerate raw and elaborated materials that are extracted from the Earth by humans. Multiply the ecological footprint of one human by however many billions of humans are alive. Now, look at what it actually takes to meet those human needs... every single day.

Lots of effort has been put into studying these issues. Here's one at random:

https://overshoot.footprintnetwork.org/about-earth-overshoot-day/

And yes, I realize this website is sponsored by some of the Evil Ones. So of course that raises red flags. But the point I am trying to make is the 'ecological footprint' issue itself, rather than the ne'er-do-wells that twist and exaggerate this important concept for their motivations.

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Betsy's avatar

You raise some very real and serious issues. My view of it is that the system in which we are living was created by a certain group of wealthy individuals who may not even be fully human. Even if they are, the degree of power and wealth that they have has enabled them to impose on the rest of us a system that they benefit from. Third World countries have had their autonomy and self-sufficiency taken away from them since the beginning of the colonial era. People in more developed parts of the world have been programmed with consumerism for 150 years at least. There are numerous narratives that keep us all in shackles, believing that the way the world is around us is both our fault and in evitable. We all have to behave according to the rules of the system if we want to survive. To my mind, becoming aware of this, and realizing that we are not inherently the kind of creature that creates an inhumane system like this, is what will enable us to create a different world, a different system, that is life-affirming, earth-honoring, full of beauty and goodness, as we humans are. This is why I feel it is so important for us to understand how we have been misled about who and what we are.

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Robert Sniadach's avatar

Excellent, Betsy. Wholeheartedly agree.

Though this may seem off-point at first, stay with me. I think the bottom line, regarding many of the core issues you raise, is the constant effort to reinforce and maintain the programmed universal belief in 'authority'.

Most especially government authority... but I am not demoting the equally insidious medical authority, legal authority, military authority, monetary/financial authority, etc.

It all has got to go.

Expertise?... yes. Authority?... NO.

It boils down to slavery.

The proper definition of slavery, IMO, is this:

"If someone can impose demands or restrictions on your life, without your consent, that would make you their slave."

This definition runs far deeper than you might think, from first glance. Applying that definition in many different scenarios, you quickly realize that ALL so-called 'authority' - which is the belief that strangers you do not know SHOULD place demands and restrictions on your life - must be abolished. These authority-sanctified strangers are at least as fallible as all the rest of us... likely far more fallible, precisely because they are usually mentally ill psychopaths.

This meme nails it: https://t.me/DrRobertSniadach/6069

With coercive authority gone, Humanity will then instantly be required to Grow Up. Their previous dependency on authority must be dealt with.

People of like mind, values, and goals will rapidly coalesce into groups and communities of people who actually WANT to live and work together.

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I greatly enjoy exploring these topics, and sincerely appreciate your creative efforts. The no-virus thingee, for example, has been on my plate for >40 years. Like you, plenty of rabbit holes have been traversed, plenty more to explore.

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Betsy's avatar

Robert, 100% 100% 100%. Everything you say. And I love your meme. I envision a future where everyone takes responsibility for their own life and people come together in communities bioregionally – mostly self-sustaining, but also engaging in trade on mutually agreeable terms with other communities. It’s always a pleasure to meet someone who shares a similar vision and hope for the world.

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Robert Sniadach's avatar

Yes Ma'am. We're definitely on the Same Page!

I've been exploring that one, too. Alec and I have been conversing a bit about it.

https://t.me/DrRobertSniadach/6006

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Guy Duperreault's avatar

hola, betsy very nice, solid well argued and researched. i loved that you took the time to seriously question the size of population narrative with available data and reasoned err-on-the-side error inferences! [smh.] yes, if their lips are moving, they are lying and often out in plain sight! lol! this time, with an actual number to attach to it! 8/5.5 (conservatively) = 1.5 times an exaggeration.

(and a small synchronicity with something i'm writing: your freud reference lands perfectly within my own current writing. in my case, i focus on his setting a excellent bar for gaslighting as science with his successful promulgation of the 'seduction theory' — the curing of hysterical women is to bully them into believing their experiences of having been sexually assaulted / raped as children was a false memory.)

we are living the bhagavad-gita wedded to the great apocalypse! all the best with what is changing. everything changes! with peace, respect, love and equanimous enthusiasm.

🙏❤️🧘‍♂️🙌☯️🙌🧘‍♂️❤️🙏

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Betsy's avatar

Thanks, Guy! It took a ridiculous amount of time to do the calculations about population! I kept thinking, why am I doing this? It seems like a waste of time! But I couldn't stop, I wanted to see what it added to. I think the real number is probably less than 4 billion. And Freud, yikes! Don't get me started! A real piece of work, as Hamlet would say.

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Guy Duperreault's avatar

da nada, betsy. again, great work.

it is so great your curiosity's drive to quest the truth kept you going! this has now become a reference for me/ us going forward. i've shared it to notes and added to my research files.

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Guy Duperreault's avatar

also, betsy

in recent explorations i've come to understand that the *lie* is the purpose more than the grift or gaslighting opportunities per se that the lie creates. it is when we believe the lie, good or bad, and propagate the lie, especially with bully language, that we become malleable manageable objects to be easily directed to 'self inject' toxins as health and so are thus relatively easily killed off.

this links to my adamancy that we live a bully culture in a state of 'bully stockholm syndrome' in which we lie every time we say 'have to' and 'should'. and that that constant lying is what is, effectively, killing us as victims of lie(f) that we are not in reality alive when aligned with the truth of our inner strength and physical amazingness!

we are living the bhagavad-gita wedded to the great apocalypse! all the best with what is changing. everything changes! with peace, respect, love and equanimous enthusiasm.

🙏❤️🧘‍♂️🙌☯️🙌🧘‍♂️❤️🙏

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Betsy's avatar

I came across this today, from Hannah Arendt: “… constant lying is not aimed at making people believe a lie, but at ensuring that no one believes anything anymore. People who can no longer distinguish between truth and lies cannot distinguish between right and wrong… With such a people you can do whatever you want.”

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Guy Duperreault's avatar

yes! i love this quotation and came across it in my digging. i think this is accurate. my more recent exploration of the lie suggests arendt's observation is not quite the full story.

a more complete story is that the lie, the believed lie, the used lie, the lived lie, separates us from the truth of our selves as self-autonomous, responsible and trustworthy creatures. and it keeps us from true intimicacy with our neighbours because both of us lack trustworthiness by living the lie. that double separation is that which keeps us divided from the connection to community and from trusting ourselves. that lack of both social and internal cohesion makes us vulnerable to authority structures and prone to substituting morality, either from religion or secular sources, to remove compassion. for example, the gaslighting science to inject us with poison was done with moral bullying so as to remove compassion.

another interesting example, to me anyway, is the morality of the so-so gaslit 'truth' of economics: it allows us to walk past people dying of their economic fate no differently than a gaslit belief in karma keeps people from intervening when a baby falls into a river and drowns. (i wrote 'economics debunked' and 'banks skanks' as courses investigating the religious nature of economics and its morality that easily justifies death by economic fate.)

we are living the bhagavad-gita wedded to the great apocalypse! all the best with what is changing. everything changes! with peace, respect, love and equanimous enthusiasm.

🙏❤️🧘‍♂️🙌☯️🙌🧘‍♂️❤️🙏

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