Wetiko is the best explanation. It uses simple psychology and jives well with even Jung's idea of archetypes, which I suspect he learned by seeing the craziness of his times.
It also fulfills Occam's razor, unlike the quantum reality one.
Quantum theory is the virology of physics BTW.
I'm a nerd and I've always questioned teachers. The double slit has huge assumptions , like they assume the detector uses zero energy (impossible and that's why the photon was influenced by measuring it aka observing it).
Here is a playlist of interesting videos pulling apart quantum mechanics.
Thanks for the resources on quantum theory. I have been hearing that it's not highly regarded anymore, so I'll check these out. I appreciate it when readers educate me! That's how learning should be--a reciprocal thing.
"...ever since the movie The Matrix came out about 25 years ago, that the reality we experience is a simulation. I used to think that was utterly ridiculous."
-Yes, they were taunting us with that movie and by suggesting a simulation to be Sci Fi-ish as in the movie no one would believe us if we use the word "simulation" for real life. "False narratives" is a better term.
So do you think we are in a simulation, or a hologram, or some other medium that is computer-generated? Or is it just that we believe a false narrative about what is real? Some people I respect are sure it's a straight-up simulation. I don't know--but I do know that many things I thought were utterly ridiculous just a few years ago are now at least plausible.
It depends on your operational definition of simulation. For example, if the Govt or news spins a story about Bin Laden or Sadam, many people, myself included, can get imbibed in that as a truth. Thats a false narrative belief system to me. I think the new-age "simulation" stuff is propaganda to keep the masses off the scent of lies, damn lies, and more lies. Well we saw that first hand during fake pandemic. But who knows what simulation might lurk about, always keep your mind open.
The virus narrative has brought about the only real isolation in humanity, the isolation from ourselves. Each person, separated from their natural environment and community, completely thrown back on themselves, succumbing to mindless fear and selfishness. The most unnatural form of existence of all. The devaluation of the human being. The earth after us. If you replace the metaphor 'virus' or disease x constantly with the term 'humanity', all the pamphlets of the organizers of the crisis make perfect and new sense. Some people hate nothing more than other people. And this group of organizers are such specimens. They not only rob us of our instincts, our natural need for community, but also of valuable time to deal with the real problems of the world, the causes and the necessary solutions. Because in the virus narrative, everyone is only concerned with their own pathetic selfishness. Anyone who researches the real causes of illness quickly discovers that our environment is in danger, our terrain. And also that the cause of the danger is precisely those who want to sell us the apparent solution. If nothing helps to drive people into completely hysterical fear (terror, war, poverty), the virus narrative is the last resort.
100%! This perspective is what I expected to be hearing from the "left liberal progressive" folks I used to hang out with, when the nonsense started 4 years ago. But instead of continuing to be critical of how the corporations causing the problems in the world are also benefiting from them (SO many examples of this), they suddenly went full-narrative and trusted Pharma and believed government! My head spun. What the heck! I still don't get it. The isolation aspect of the "protocols" seems on one level less horrible than the injections, but, as you say, it cut us apart from each other almost as if with a knife, and left us without support or communication. Like what happens to trees in the city when their roots are chopped away to make room for a new sidewalk or to repave the street. It's an amputation of something crucial to their well-being--and it is the same for us.
I kinda think this obsession is inherent to those top parasites, not so much for us, but they've done a huge amount of programming to turn us into selfish narcissists like them. (It has worked to some degree, but not as well as they need it to, imho.)
I hope you're right. I'm pessimistic about any positive change though, since everyone I know living around me is clueless about what's occurring now and what lies ahead.
I don't see anyone in my world suddenly waking up, either--but to me, there's zero percentage in being pessimistic. We have nothing to lose in having hope an looking for positive change. And holding that frequency could actually help it come about. That's how I look at it.
I can appreciate your approach. I wouldn't bother to be on this site if I thought we were absolutely doomed. A lot of people who are obliviously optimistic now will potentially start to wake up when the economy crashes hard. If they don't already have a grasp of what the sinister plans are, they can be easily led through desperation, to go against their own and everyone else's best interests.
That's what happened with the plandemic. The next plandemic will be better planned, since the perpetrators learned from this last one. So people need to be prepared. Thus my effort to try to inform them. The people running these operations are masters at manipulation of the ignorant masses, as we witnessed in this first plandemic. They are deadly serious about meeting their goals, which the genocide in Gaza makes crystal clear.
Great article. I am not so sure I agree on one thing; that Fauci, Gates, Walensky do not believe in viruses. I’m not sure how we can really know that for a fact. The brainwashing is so deeply engraved in the minds of those in this field. I bet the vast majority of virologists working in labs every day really believe in the illusions they deal with in their microscopes. I am sure thousands of them have already gone to their graves believing in what they practiced.
One does not have to believe viruses are fake to have sinister intentions to mislead and do destruction and harm. One does not even have to believe a virus is necessary to sell dangerous drugs and shots that do great harm.
At any rate, I much appreciate all you do in the battle for truth.
Thanks for the kind words! I say I think they know viruses are nonexistent because they know that the whole episode is a deception, and that is the foundation of it. I agree that most virologists and doctors etc. are fully indoctrinated and believe implicitly in the legitimacy of their work. The figureheads at the top, I just think they are not deluded and are only pretending. But, as you say, we can't know unless they confess.
I do have some suggestions about "what is real and how do we know it."
Our subjective experience can lead us there. Specific experiences serve as portals into the perception of reality. They are available to everyone.
This is not just my idea. It has been suggested by various thinkers, scientists, mystics, artists for centuries (and probably many more I've never heard of)
Accessing this reality enables us to transform our fears and make us immune to manipulation by the 'matrix'. I'm talking from experience (not just a lovely theory)
I like this. But don't you think we'd have to be very sure that what we think is our "subjective experience" really is? If we're in a simulation, it will seem real by every metric we have, won't it? If nothing else, it may take some deliberate effort at awareness to pay enough attention to specific experiences. I think we are under a regime that has taught us (for eons) not to trust our own perceptions, and to disregard the bodily sensations that tell us when something is safe, good, true, etc. There's some overcoming needed there, I think. Just pondering out loud here. Thanks for your thought-provoking comment!
You are absolutely right. Of course, I am using the term "subjective experience" in a very specific way, embedded in a larger frame of work, designed to get us out of this 'dystopian delusion' which so many fellow humans are drowning in right now.
I love your work Betsy! And I admire your courage and dedication.
And my comment is not just meant to be thought-provoking. I think we are both looking in a similar direction, trying to figure out "another way..." I am coming from a place of having worked with "subjective experience as a reliable resource to transform our reality" for 25 years, which provides the soil for my writings here on substack.
The idea of a dystopian reality is alive and well. How close we are to it is impossible to tell. How dystopian will dystopian become? Who knows? I kiss and hug my wife in the morning and again at night and what happens in between is just life.
Wonderful article Betsy. I agree with you that blowing the lid on the nonexistence of viruses and infectious disease is critical in our quest for freedom. I am sick of the fence sitters who just want to "act" like scientists. Have some freakin ovaries or cajones if you're a male wannabe scientist.
On another note, your writing is lovely and the wander through the quantum physics, our reality and the possibilities of our world being a simulation was enjoyable and familiar. I wonder about these same things when I walk my dog through a nearby salt marsh taken by the colors in the sky at sunset. Keep writing and sharing your observation. I'll keep reading and one day will start writing on Substack...
100% on those who know but won't say! And I so appreciate the encouragement--thank you! I don't have a dog, but sometimes walk my son's, and I have found it to often be a time of contemplation, too. There is so much to think about these days!
Great post, Betsy. I follow Joe Dispenza and one of his mantras is "Energy flows where attention goes."
His team organises Walk for the World days, two of which I've participated in (actually, bummer, I just realise now there was one just a few days ago on 21st April that I somehow missed). You join a local group and download the Walk for the World meditation.
Evidence shows that when a group of people all focus their energy on something an effect is produced. At week-long retreats "healees" receive healings from a group of "co-healers" with very noticeable effects (see Testimonials - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLD4EAA8F8C9148A1B) although people meditating on their own can also have radical effects on their own health.
I remember when the Transcendental Meditation folks did something like that, where they had hundreds or maybe thousands of people meditating at the same time, and there was some kind of measurable effect--some bad things stopped for a while. Crimes in cities, or something. I also have friends who have done Lynn McTaggart's "Circles of 8," where each time they meet one person is in the center and their healing is the focus of the group. People say that not only does the focus person experience some degree of healing, but those in the group also do! These and the Joe Dispenza example are all good evidence that our attention--and intention, which strengthens it--are a power we don't typically use but what if we did!
Yes I think Joe has referred to the TM people and his healing circles may well be based on Lynn McTaggart's - and yes definitely the healers themselves receive healings as profound as the healees. It is amazing.
At the moment I am wondering about all those satellite photographs that show no planes on airfields. I am wondering if they show humans. If not how high up do you have to be before humans (and other life) becomes invisible even to the strongest lenses. This is just conjecture at the moment I’d add, triggered by somebody’s substack that questioned whether there is such a thing as a satellite.
I didn't know how to respond to this since it seemed unrelated to my post. Now with the convo between you and Petra I see what it's about. As someone who also has read Agent's posts, I appreciate the perspective. And even though you two hijacked my comment section for a mostly unrelated argument, I learned a few things from your exchange!
Richard, for goodness sake. Agent simply does not do due diligence - he collects masses of evidence to support his case, time better spent asking a few questions first to ensure he has one. In fact, I'd call his style of argument a case of the logical fallacy, elephant hurling, which I just learnt of in Mike Stone's latest article that Betsy links to in hers.
The fallacy of elephant hurling, arises when the debater starts amassing huge quotes, accumulating a large amount of evidence supposedly supporting his position, to give the impression of weighty evidence, but without demonstrating that all the evidence does indeed support his argument. The debater has the undeclared assumption that accumulating a great deal of evidence out of context would make his ideas seem true.
Just zoom in on the satellite layer in googlemaps to an airport and you'll see planes.
This is a response to why we don't see planes in the air in satellite images.
Sorry, Richard, I didn't really mean to ridicule, I just feel a sense of impatience when complete nonsense is pushed out by someone and others latch onto it. I have to admit when I first looked at the images Agent presented I did feel a sense of shock myself.
1. The thing is though the fact that you can't see planes doesn't really support the lack of existence of satellites, it just seems a very strange thing. The question is why can we see everything but planes? Actually, my first clue was asking the question, "Well, surely we can see cars." So I looked for cars and when I couldn't see them I simply zoomed in to see them and saw that it was simply an issue of zoom level.
2. I noticed the same thing with his Dinosaur series - Agent presents too much information that overwhelms and is inclined to make you believe what he's saying. I'm not saying this is deliberate on his part but really what he does is akin to the propagandists telling us there's a covid pandemic even if he's doing it perfectly innocently. Very often you don't need mountains of evidence to make your case.
3. A 30-minute BBC drama, The News-Benders, was made in 1968 - just prior to the moon landings - in which a recruiter for a government broadcaster (obviously based on the BBC) hires someone to "create" the news. The recruiter makes derisive noises about a number of supposed phenomena such as the H-Bomb, satellites and moon rockets while admitting the existence of the atom bomb. This drama is clearly made by intelligence and what they've done is mix up truth and lies - their favourite thing to do, of course.
What's real
Moon landings and satellites
What's not real
Atom and H-bomb
What this program shows so clearly is that those in power understand how we break up into different profiles that believe and disbelieve in certain ways. My sister (identical twin) also doesn't believe in dinosaurs, satellites and the moon landings. Of course, lots of people who believe in dinosaurs and satellites don't believe in the moon landings - that is really the commonest real thing that people don't believe, however, it's just so interesting that people STILL don't believe in satellites. Amazing!
If somebody throws up something that I can’t refute Petra I normally go looking for the evidence of whether it is true or not (if I have the time).
Re the dinosaurs, one valid point was that the dinosaurs have been levied off what is quite often very little evidence. Did they look like the representations given to us? I don’t know, but I see a 12yo girl discovered some large prehistoric sea mammal on a (Cornwall?) coast a few days ago. Certainly worth having a closer look at. And certainly in that post on Dinosaurs the video on the Chinese showed that their contribution to the field was bogus but that scientific authorities in the US were too timid to say so, but why (the threat of tit for tat I’d suggest). Maybe it’s a little like climate change for which the evidence is irrefutable. But what is causing it? Is it really CO2? Did we really have Tyrannosaurus Rexes? Or were they similar, or maybe not even similar, but different.
RE the satellites, it’s an interesting point I figure. Does Earth is really big planes are really small explain it? No, not in my view. It may though but I would need to have a closer look at it.
Re moon landings, I used to side with yes they did happen but hey that’s an interesting idea. But then I read an explanation of why they could have been faked which made sense to me. As in the claims of landing before end of 60s on the moon was figured at some stage in 66 to be impossible to keep to, so they faked it. Evidence in favour, the ridiculous moon landing craft and the phone call from Prez to astronauts. Where do I sit now? Probably faked but I’m still open to be convinced otherwise.
All you have to is go to googlemaps and zoom in over an airport on the satellite layer.
Here, I've created the link in the satellite layer to Sydney Airport (about 10 mins from where I live) with the zoom level set so you can see planes. When you zoom out you'll see the kinds of images presented by Agent that show no planes.
The evidence is overwhelming that the moon landings happened but 9/11 was really a demolition job in the guise of a Full-Scale Anti-Terror Exercise in the further guise of a real terrorist attack.
Take religion as long term example. The unknowns of life in any form, or even the existence of everything we perceive collectively had an origin. We as humans are inquisitive as to how, why, what and all the other questions. I see that as the beginning of religious faiths because the given proofs and science filled in those blanks for the masses. Are they correct? Who's Religion is right? Are any? Or are they just plausible options that people chose, our were often forced to accept. The same applies to history. It is written by the victors with their point of view(spin & agenda). Often it is mostly lies with just of truth to not alienate the masses. Reminds me of a poem at the end of a Moody Blues song; 'Nights in White Satin'. 'Late Lament'-"We decide which is right and which is an illusion".
Wetiko is the best explanation. It uses simple psychology and jives well with even Jung's idea of archetypes, which I suspect he learned by seeing the craziness of his times.
It also fulfills Occam's razor, unlike the quantum reality one.
Quantum theory is the virology of physics BTW.
I'm a nerd and I've always questioned teachers. The double slit has huge assumptions , like they assume the detector uses zero energy (impossible and that's why the photon was influenced by measuring it aka observing it).
Here is a playlist of interesting videos pulling apart quantum mechanics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zm9tUVI6Ehk&list=PLkdAkAC4ItcHNLDIK9ORydQl_Ik6GJ0bD
And here's a fave video about how science turned into "systemics".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ev7e9sfWIJo
Thanks for the resources on quantum theory. I have been hearing that it's not highly regarded anymore, so I'll check these out. I appreciate it when readers educate me! That's how learning should be--a reciprocal thing.
"...ever since the movie The Matrix came out about 25 years ago, that the reality we experience is a simulation. I used to think that was utterly ridiculous."
-Yes, they were taunting us with that movie and by suggesting a simulation to be Sci Fi-ish as in the movie no one would believe us if we use the word "simulation" for real life. "False narratives" is a better term.
So do you think we are in a simulation, or a hologram, or some other medium that is computer-generated? Or is it just that we believe a false narrative about what is real? Some people I respect are sure it's a straight-up simulation. I don't know--but I do know that many things I thought were utterly ridiculous just a few years ago are now at least plausible.
It depends on your operational definition of simulation. For example, if the Govt or news spins a story about Bin Laden or Sadam, many people, myself included, can get imbibed in that as a truth. Thats a false narrative belief system to me. I think the new-age "simulation" stuff is propaganda to keep the masses off the scent of lies, damn lies, and more lies. Well we saw that first hand during fake pandemic. But who knows what simulation might lurk about, always keep your mind open.
The virus narrative has brought about the only real isolation in humanity, the isolation from ourselves. Each person, separated from their natural environment and community, completely thrown back on themselves, succumbing to mindless fear and selfishness. The most unnatural form of existence of all. The devaluation of the human being. The earth after us. If you replace the metaphor 'virus' or disease x constantly with the term 'humanity', all the pamphlets of the organizers of the crisis make perfect and new sense. Some people hate nothing more than other people. And this group of organizers are such specimens. They not only rob us of our instincts, our natural need for community, but also of valuable time to deal with the real problems of the world, the causes and the necessary solutions. Because in the virus narrative, everyone is only concerned with their own pathetic selfishness. Anyone who researches the real causes of illness quickly discovers that our environment is in danger, our terrain. And also that the cause of the danger is precisely those who want to sell us the apparent solution. If nothing helps to drive people into completely hysterical fear (terror, war, poverty), the virus narrative is the last resort.
100%! This perspective is what I expected to be hearing from the "left liberal progressive" folks I used to hang out with, when the nonsense started 4 years ago. But instead of continuing to be critical of how the corporations causing the problems in the world are also benefiting from them (SO many examples of this), they suddenly went full-narrative and trusted Pharma and believed government! My head spun. What the heck! I still don't get it. The isolation aspect of the "protocols" seems on one level less horrible than the injections, but, as you say, it cut us apart from each other almost as if with a knife, and left us without support or communication. Like what happens to trees in the city when their roots are chopped away to make room for a new sidewalk or to repave the street. It's an amputation of something crucial to their well-being--and it is the same for us.
Thank you!! 👏
- Fear is the mind killer... it also kills everything else from there on out.
At the core of the dystopia is the universal obsession with ‘ME, MY, MINE’ and the top parasites have re-enforced it, and utilized it well.
I kinda think this obsession is inherent to those top parasites, not so much for us, but they've done a huge amount of programming to turn us into selfish narcissists like them. (It has worked to some degree, but not as well as they need it to, imho.)
I hope you're right. I'm pessimistic about any positive change though, since everyone I know living around me is clueless about what's occurring now and what lies ahead.
I don't see anyone in my world suddenly waking up, either--but to me, there's zero percentage in being pessimistic. We have nothing to lose in having hope an looking for positive change. And holding that frequency could actually help it come about. That's how I look at it.
I can appreciate your approach. I wouldn't bother to be on this site if I thought we were absolutely doomed. A lot of people who are obliviously optimistic now will potentially start to wake up when the economy crashes hard. If they don't already have a grasp of what the sinister plans are, they can be easily led through desperation, to go against their own and everyone else's best interests.
That's what happened with the plandemic. The next plandemic will be better planned, since the perpetrators learned from this last one. So people need to be prepared. Thus my effort to try to inform them. The people running these operations are masters at manipulation of the ignorant masses, as we witnessed in this first plandemic. They are deadly serious about meeting their goals, which the genocide in Gaza makes crystal clear.
Great article. I am not so sure I agree on one thing; that Fauci, Gates, Walensky do not believe in viruses. I’m not sure how we can really know that for a fact. The brainwashing is so deeply engraved in the minds of those in this field. I bet the vast majority of virologists working in labs every day really believe in the illusions they deal with in their microscopes. I am sure thousands of them have already gone to their graves believing in what they practiced.
One does not have to believe viruses are fake to have sinister intentions to mislead and do destruction and harm. One does not even have to believe a virus is necessary to sell dangerous drugs and shots that do great harm.
At any rate, I much appreciate all you do in the battle for truth.
Thanks for the kind words! I say I think they know viruses are nonexistent because they know that the whole episode is a deception, and that is the foundation of it. I agree that most virologists and doctors etc. are fully indoctrinated and believe implicitly in the legitimacy of their work. The figureheads at the top, I just think they are not deluded and are only pretending. But, as you say, we can't know unless they confess.
I do have some suggestions about "what is real and how do we know it."
Our subjective experience can lead us there. Specific experiences serve as portals into the perception of reality. They are available to everyone.
This is not just my idea. It has been suggested by various thinkers, scientists, mystics, artists for centuries (and probably many more I've never heard of)
Accessing this reality enables us to transform our fears and make us immune to manipulation by the 'matrix'. I'm talking from experience (not just a lovely theory)
I like this. But don't you think we'd have to be very sure that what we think is our "subjective experience" really is? If we're in a simulation, it will seem real by every metric we have, won't it? If nothing else, it may take some deliberate effort at awareness to pay enough attention to specific experiences. I think we are under a regime that has taught us (for eons) not to trust our own perceptions, and to disregard the bodily sensations that tell us when something is safe, good, true, etc. There's some overcoming needed there, I think. Just pondering out loud here. Thanks for your thought-provoking comment!
Thank you for accepting the challenge! 😊
You are absolutely right. Of course, I am using the term "subjective experience" in a very specific way, embedded in a larger frame of work, designed to get us out of this 'dystopian delusion' which so many fellow humans are drowning in right now.
I love your work Betsy! And I admire your courage and dedication.
And my comment is not just meant to be thought-provoking. I think we are both looking in a similar direction, trying to figure out "another way..." I am coming from a place of having worked with "subjective experience as a reliable resource to transform our reality" for 25 years, which provides the soil for my writings here on substack.
See my chapter on "subjective experience" here: https://veronikabondsynchronosophy.substack.com/p/the-heartwood-of-synchronosophy-part-b9a
The idea of a dystopian reality is alive and well. How close we are to it is impossible to tell. How dystopian will dystopian become? Who knows? I kiss and hug my wife in the morning and again at night and what happens in between is just life.
Wonderful article Betsy. I agree with you that blowing the lid on the nonexistence of viruses and infectious disease is critical in our quest for freedom. I am sick of the fence sitters who just want to "act" like scientists. Have some freakin ovaries or cajones if you're a male wannabe scientist.
On another note, your writing is lovely and the wander through the quantum physics, our reality and the possibilities of our world being a simulation was enjoyable and familiar. I wonder about these same things when I walk my dog through a nearby salt marsh taken by the colors in the sky at sunset. Keep writing and sharing your observation. I'll keep reading and one day will start writing on Substack...
100% on those who know but won't say! And I so appreciate the encouragement--thank you! I don't have a dog, but sometimes walk my son's, and I have found it to often be a time of contemplation, too. There is so much to think about these days!
Great post, Betsy. I follow Joe Dispenza and one of his mantras is "Energy flows where attention goes."
His team organises Walk for the World days, two of which I've participated in (actually, bummer, I just realise now there was one just a few days ago on 21st April that I somehow missed). You join a local group and download the Walk for the World meditation.
https://walkforthe.world/
Evidence shows that when a group of people all focus their energy on something an effect is produced. At week-long retreats "healees" receive healings from a group of "co-healers" with very noticeable effects (see Testimonials - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLD4EAA8F8C9148A1B) although people meditating on their own can also have radical effects on their own health.
I remember when the Transcendental Meditation folks did something like that, where they had hundreds or maybe thousands of people meditating at the same time, and there was some kind of measurable effect--some bad things stopped for a while. Crimes in cities, or something. I also have friends who have done Lynn McTaggart's "Circles of 8," where each time they meet one person is in the center and their healing is the focus of the group. People say that not only does the focus person experience some degree of healing, but those in the group also do! These and the Joe Dispenza example are all good evidence that our attention--and intention, which strengthens it--are a power we don't typically use but what if we did!
Yes I think Joe has referred to the TM people and his healing circles may well be based on Lynn McTaggart's - and yes definitely the healers themselves receive healings as profound as the healees. It is amazing.
At the moment I am wondering about all those satellite photographs that show no planes on airfields. I am wondering if they show humans. If not how high up do you have to be before humans (and other life) becomes invisible even to the strongest lenses. This is just conjecture at the moment I’d add, triggered by somebody’s substack that questioned whether there is such a thing as a satellite.
I didn't know how to respond to this since it seemed unrelated to my post. Now with the convo between you and Petra I see what it's about. As someone who also has read Agent's posts, I appreciate the perspective. And even though you two hijacked my comment section for a mostly unrelated argument, I learned a few things from your exchange!
Richard, for goodness sake. Agent simply does not do due diligence - he collects masses of evidence to support his case, time better spent asking a few questions first to ensure he has one. In fact, I'd call his style of argument a case of the logical fallacy, elephant hurling, which I just learnt of in Mike Stone's latest article that Betsy links to in hers.
https://creationwiki.org/Fallacy_of_elephant_hurling
The fallacy of elephant hurling, arises when the debater starts amassing huge quotes, accumulating a large amount of evidence supposedly supporting his position, to give the impression of weighty evidence, but without demonstrating that all the evidence does indeed support his argument. The debater has the undeclared assumption that accumulating a great deal of evidence out of context would make his ideas seem true.
Just zoom in on the satellite layer in googlemaps to an airport and you'll see planes.
This is a response to why we don't see planes in the air in satellite images.
https://www.quora.com/Why-are-there-no-satellite-images-of-planes-flying-all-over-the-globe.
So first up
ridicule.
Second up
earth is really big and planes are really small.
Ok Petra, solid argument! Makes me think a little more aye?
And I don’t even hold to the argument that you are ridiculing me for, just saying that it needs a bit more investigation .
Sorry, Richard, I didn't really mean to ridicule, I just feel a sense of impatience when complete nonsense is pushed out by someone and others latch onto it. I have to admit when I first looked at the images Agent presented I did feel a sense of shock myself.
1. The thing is though the fact that you can't see planes doesn't really support the lack of existence of satellites, it just seems a very strange thing. The question is why can we see everything but planes? Actually, my first clue was asking the question, "Well, surely we can see cars." So I looked for cars and when I couldn't see them I simply zoomed in to see them and saw that it was simply an issue of zoom level.
2. I noticed the same thing with his Dinosaur series - Agent presents too much information that overwhelms and is inclined to make you believe what he's saying. I'm not saying this is deliberate on his part but really what he does is akin to the propagandists telling us there's a covid pandemic even if he's doing it perfectly innocently. Very often you don't need mountains of evidence to make your case.
3. A 30-minute BBC drama, The News-Benders, was made in 1968 - just prior to the moon landings - in which a recruiter for a government broadcaster (obviously based on the BBC) hires someone to "create" the news. The recruiter makes derisive noises about a number of supposed phenomena such as the H-Bomb, satellites and moon rockets while admitting the existence of the atom bomb. This drama is clearly made by intelligence and what they've done is mix up truth and lies - their favourite thing to do, of course.
What's real
Moon landings and satellites
What's not real
Atom and H-bomb
What this program shows so clearly is that those in power understand how we break up into different profiles that believe and disbelieve in certain ways. My sister (identical twin) also doesn't believe in dinosaurs, satellites and the moon landings. Of course, lots of people who believe in dinosaurs and satellites don't believe in the moon landings - that is really the commonest real thing that people don't believe, however, it's just so interesting that people STILL don't believe in satellites. Amazing!
The News-Benders (really worth a watch) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYAke_z3RVU
If somebody throws up something that I can’t refute Petra I normally go looking for the evidence of whether it is true or not (if I have the time).
Re the dinosaurs, one valid point was that the dinosaurs have been levied off what is quite often very little evidence. Did they look like the representations given to us? I don’t know, but I see a 12yo girl discovered some large prehistoric sea mammal on a (Cornwall?) coast a few days ago. Certainly worth having a closer look at. And certainly in that post on Dinosaurs the video on the Chinese showed that their contribution to the field was bogus but that scientific authorities in the US were too timid to say so, but why (the threat of tit for tat I’d suggest). Maybe it’s a little like climate change for which the evidence is irrefutable. But what is causing it? Is it really CO2? Did we really have Tyrannosaurus Rexes? Or were they similar, or maybe not even similar, but different.
RE the satellites, it’s an interesting point I figure. Does Earth is really big planes are really small explain it? No, not in my view. It may though but I would need to have a closer look at it.
Re moon landings, I used to side with yes they did happen but hey that’s an interesting idea. But then I read an explanation of why they could have been faked which made sense to me. As in the claims of landing before end of 60s on the moon was figured at some stage in 66 to be impossible to keep to, so they faked it. Evidence in favour, the ridiculous moon landing craft and the phone call from Prez to astronauts. Where do I sit now? Probably faked but I’m still open to be convinced otherwise.
9/11 definitely an inside job of some sort.
"I would need to take a closer look at it."
All you have to is go to googlemaps and zoom in over an airport on the satellite layer.
Here, I've created the link in the satellite layer to Sydney Airport (about 10 mins from where I live) with the zoom level set so you can see planes. When you zoom out you'll see the kinds of images presented by Agent that show no planes.
https://www.google.com/maps/@-33.9361874,151.1663298,910m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu
You will find the same thing with cars.
The evidence is overwhelming that the moon landings happened but 9/11 was really a demolition job in the guise of a Full-Scale Anti-Terror Exercise in the further guise of a real terrorist attack.
https://petraliverani.substack.com/p/american-moon-2017-superficially
https://petraliverani.substack.com/p/psyops-nobody-dies-nobody-gets-hurt
Take religion as long term example. The unknowns of life in any form, or even the existence of everything we perceive collectively had an origin. We as humans are inquisitive as to how, why, what and all the other questions. I see that as the beginning of religious faiths because the given proofs and science filled in those blanks for the masses. Are they correct? Who's Religion is right? Are any? Or are they just plausible options that people chose, our were often forced to accept. The same applies to history. It is written by the victors with their point of view(spin & agenda). Often it is mostly lies with just of truth to not alienate the masses. Reminds me of a poem at the end of a Moody Blues song; 'Nights in White Satin'. 'Late Lament'-"We decide which is right and which is an illusion".